Qualified to instruct.

[CplPayne]

Similar to a question I have asked before but Iwas just wondering at coy / county level who is qualified to instruct / test on the different courses and award badges and qualifications.

Could a serving Cpl from 216 Signals instruct the classification / post classification?

Or is it a must that instructors should have completed the cadet specific Blanford courses.

[D.B.>>]

Thats an excellant couple of questions and i'm sure that CFNSA will be along shortly to answer.
I may be wrong and i'm sure i will be corrected if i am but i'm sure that adults have to complete the cadet specific courses at Blandford

[second to none]

Surely if the Cpl is qualified to instruct at 216 then he would be allowed to instruct the ACF?

[D.B.>>]

As i said i may be wrong,the one person who will know without doubt is CFNSA

[second to none]

D.B. that wasnt aimed at you and i wasnt dissagreeing with what you said. Sorry if it came across that way. It was ment as a rhetorical (sp)question.

[D.B.>>]

No offence taken stn

[D.B.>>]

Just had a look on the ACF CCF Signals forum and it states

It's advisable , even though you might have regular signals experience,to attend Blandford so as to learn exactly what it is the cadets need to know to learn CRU,

It also states that you need to do the basic adult course before you can go on and take the advanced,once you have completed the advanced you are then qualified to not only teach but also assess classification.

The basic course entitles adult's to teach and assess CRU and to teach upto classification

[Sig News]

You are correct. We have had a problem with a few ex-cadets, TA and Regular soldiers who decided to teach things not in the syllabus, and vice versa.

We therefore decided that ALL CFAV adults should attend the Basic Signals Instructor (CFAV BSI) course, unless there are exceptional circumstances. CFNSA and I consider these on individual merit. This way we can be sure that everyone knows what to teach, and in addition attending the course you make contact with other CFAVs. Just because you have done signalling before, does not always mean that you can instruct! In addition all Royal Signals Sponsor units are being sent a national training package DVD, so that they can instruct cadets.

If you hold the BSI you can teach or asses CRU (not both at the same time on the same course!) and teach X-Flags (Cadet Signaller).

X-Flags can only be examined by CFNSA authorised personnel (normally the National Training Team - CFSTT), a Royal Signals Unit, or a TA Signals PSI.

Importantly the Post Classification and Advanced Courses can only be taught and assessed at RSS Blandford. These courses are run by the TA & Cadets Office, Blandford, using regular staff and the CFSTT.

Hope that answers it.

[CplPayne]

Ok thanks- will have to see if county has any one qualified to teach and sort it that way.

Was just trying to use some contacts - but dont think the army going to give him leave to attend a cadet signals course.- back to the drawing board.

[argyll Ian]

Originally Posted by D.B.>>

As i said i may be wrong,the one person who will know without doubt is CFNSA

Totally agree.
Signals questions are best answered by the Cadet Forces National Signals Adviser.

That way, the person gets the answer straight from the 'horses mouth'.

Who better to answer the question?

[CFNSA]

Thanks Ian!
I've been away from home for a while and so the National Team Training Officer stepped in - thanks also to you Dan!
As a general rule, we would accept anyone instructing who has attended the adult basic course (now listed in Westminster as CFAV BSI). Signals PSIs from a CTT, or a sponsor Royal Signals unit (normally a SSgt or WOII and preferably a Yeoman of Signals) are authorised to examine Crossed Flags, and the TA and Cadets Office at the Royal School of Signals has circulated training aids to all such personnel. The advanced course is intended to concentrate on training and admin for those i/c a Signals Platoon or Troop.
Even if an NCO has recent Corps Signals experience, remember that Cadet Signals is essentially infantry based, and although the Corps are specialists, they often have a different way of doing things, because their equipment and SOPs are different too. 216 Sig Sqn, because of their unique position (not to mention funny coloured berets!) are likely to have even more specialised kit, and their own way of doing things! That is why we recommend anyone to attend the Blandford courses - it ensures we are all working to the same standard and testing the same things.
Cpl Payne, did your County get my letter? It was written some time ago, after our PMs on this forum?

[CplPayne]

Thanks all for your help. Glad its all sorted and hope to attend a RSS Blanford course in the near future when traing days allow.

[D.B.>>]

I stand corrected,my apologies if i inadverdantly miss led