Anyone actually favour assault vests over webbing?

[Ready]

He generally just uses the assaut vest for carrying small rations and ammo (When on TA weekends) where we get issued around 6 mags for the weekend.

If you read my comment just above yours you would have seen this. Thats the reason he wears both.

[NAYLEv]

Originally Posted by Ready

If you read my comment just above yours you would have seen this. Thats the reason he wears both.

No offence, but it doesn't really explain why he wears both, as you can easily fit 6 mags and small rations in your webbing

[Fordy94]

That's fair enough, pretty much what I expected.

Understand advantages in vehicles etc. I was asking mainly in terms of cadet purposes, where generally it's one or the other, as Talon says.

[Ready]

Sorry. I should elabourated. During our TA weekends we keep everything for the whole day in our webbing, as we dont have access to the bergans until the night. Because of this he only had room for 4 mags in his webbing because the right side was filled with fieldcraft equipment, This is why he uses both, for comfort (He finds it comfortable) aswell as purpose.

[Fordy94]

Originally Posted by FYI - The Best

Fordy, you're a relatively new member (in terms of posts) - before you create a thread, you should use the search feature to see if there is already a thread about the topic you are chosing. In this case, there is.

Thanks, I may be new in terms of post to this forum, but am a very old and respected member with thousands of posts on others - am aware of the "search feature" and I did use it.

I did find threads about it, but nothing that quite answered my question - I was interested in just cadets, not regs, as I tried to establish (perhaps unsuccessfully) in my original question.

Admittedly, I didn't find that thread you linked - that's pretty much exactly what I was interested in, so thanks fr that - +1.

[Private Murphy]

Originally Posted by Ready

Sorry. I should elabourated. During our TA weekends we keep everything for the whole day in our webbing, as we dont have access to the bergans until the night. Because of this he only had room for 4 mags in his webbing because the right side was filled with fieldcraft equipment, This is why he uses both, for comfort (He finds it comfortable) aswell as purpose.

Your TA weekends? clearly your TA dont teach you as well as they do around my parts, never heard the phrase:

"Rifle first, everything else last"

Or words to that affect? I was taught its always this order:

1) Bombs and bullets
2) Water
3) The rest of your equipment (CBRN, radio, etc)
4) Scoff.

If you have 6 mags, then you jettison something less important and stick them in your webbing. If you have 20 mags you stick 8 in your webbing, and the rest go somewhere else.

[Ready]

The TA weekends are when we play enemy for them. They teach us nothing and we use our previous fieldcraft experiance when on them. We had webbing and nothing else, bergans and daysacks were ditched for around 14 hours that day, we didnt see them until after the final ambush just before it got dark.

6 mags, we had to make do with the space we had at the time, and he used his assault vest for the day.

[verdi811]

Originally Posted by Ready

where we get issued around 6 mags for the weekend.

what worries me is the usage of WE from a cdt lcpl with ref to the TA....

[Private Murphy]

Ahhh well thats a massively different story, what you said was very misleading.

What you meant "on cadet weekends, where we played enemy, for a local TA unit"

Its very different to

"on TA weekends"

[Ready]

We've known them as TA weekends. Just what were told when its happening. I wasnt sure if you knew what i meant or not.

It isnt 'technically' a cadet weekend. around 12 cadets go to some location and play enemy for the TA. It isnt officially a cadet weekend.

what worries me is the usage of WE from a cdt lcpl with ref to the TA....

Im not sure what you mean...

[Talon]

Originally Posted by Ready

Because of this he only had room for 4 mags in his webbing because the right side was filled with fieldcraft equipment

This is issue plce yes? I ask as my plce ammo pouches fit 3 mags in each pouch. A double ammo pouch therefore holds 6 mags.

[Private Murphy]

Originally Posted by Ready

We've known them as TA weekends. Just what were told when its happening. I wasnt sure if you knew what i meant or not.

It isnt 'technically' a cadet weekend. around 12 cadets go to some location and play enemy for the TA. It isnt officially a cadet weekend.

Right, i understand were you are coming from now.
But you have to realise that when you say TA weekend on a armycadet forum, people read it as "TA weekend", and not "Cadet weekend with the TA"
They are massively different things, with completely different rules and implications.

It will be an official cadet weekend, even if you dont see the official bit that goes on in the background, because at one point or another the TA will approach your county asking for the service, the county will organise and run it, and you will then go and do it.

Still stand by my statement though, you dont need to wear both, webbing can hold enough kit to survive for 24 hours very happily.

8 mags. (the new mags take up more room, its possibly you may only get 2 per pouch without cramming them in hard)
Mess tins + scoff
Water bottle
Misc pouch to be filled with the rest of your rubbish.

Then you still have your combat jacket ontop of that.
On CLC leadership we did 12 hour exercises based out of our webbing, and i've gone 24 hours without seeing my kit, thats why you carry your messtins on long patrols, so you can set up a hasty harbour and get some scoff. Or, just carry chocolate + Biscuits, have the same effect.

[Cadet_Corky]

I own both - although my webbing is on loan to a friend - but wear assualt vest because I'm a cripple

[Oakey]

Webbing all the way, much more warrier (sp? )

[FV625]

I prefer chest rig over everything else to be honest.